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	<title>Comments on: A new Bs mixing results from D0</title>
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	<description>private thoughts of a physicist and chessplayer</description>
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		<title>By: Life as a Physicist &#187; More On Competition</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2006/03/17/a-new-bs-mixing-results-from-d0/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Life as a Physicist &#187; More On Competition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tommaso&#039;s and my posts on the Bs rivalry got picked up by the Cosmic Variance blog in, ironically, a post talking about sociology&#160;(I have got to update the look on my blog; ugly compared to everyone else!). One of the things both Tommaso and I discussed is what it takes to get a result out of a large experimental collaboration. The comments to the Cosmic Variance post picked up on some of this. In particular, there were several comments that could be summed up by this one&#160;by Scott O: The SNO collaboration goes a step further still. It is collaboration policy not to show any result in public unless it has both gone through extensive internal review and has been submitted for publication to a refereed journal. In other words, there is no such thing as a &#8220;SNO preliminary result&#8221;. The attitude is that if it&#8217;s not ready to submit for publication, it&#8217;s not ready to show in public either. Obviously this slows down the publication process, but personally I think there&#8217;s a lot of be said for it as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tommaso&#39;s and my posts on the Bs rivalry got picked up by the Cosmic Variance blog in, ironically, a post talking about sociology&nbsp;(I have got to update the look on my blog; ugly compared to everyone else!). One of the things both Tommaso and I discussed is what it takes to get a result out of a large experimental collaboration. The comments to the Cosmic Variance post picked up on some of this. In particular, there were several comments that could be summed up by this one&nbsp;by Scott O: The SNO collaboration goes a step further still. It is collaboration policy not to show any result in public unless it has both gone through extensive internal review and has been submitted for publication to a refereed journal. In other words, there is no such thing as a &ldquo;SNO preliminary result&rdquo;. The attitude is that if it&rsquo;s not ready to submit for publication, it&rsquo;s not ready to show in public either. Obviously this slows down the publication process, but personally I think there&rsquo;s a lot of be said for it as well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Experimental sociology &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Experimental sociology &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A little late, but I didn&#8217;t want to let slip this interesting discussion about the agonizing process of making experimental particle physics results ready for public consumption from Tomaso Dorrigo and Gordon Watts. You&#8217;ll recall that we mentioned a couple of weeks ago the new results from Fermilab&#8217;s Tevatron on B-mixing, a measurement that puts interesting new constraints on the possibilities for physics beyond the Standard Model. The first announcement was from the D0 (&#8221;D-Zero&#8221;) experiment; as Collin pointed out in the comments, the CDF experiment followed with their own results soon thereafter. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A little late, but I didn&#8217;t want to let slip this interesting discussion about the agonizing process of making experimental particle physics results ready for public consumption from Tomaso Dorrigo and Gordon Watts. You&#8217;ll recall that we mentioned a couple of weeks ago the new results from Fermilab&#8217;s Tevatron on B-mixing, a measurement that puts interesting new constraints on the possibilities for physics beyond the Standard Model. The first announcement was from the D0 (&#8221;D-Zero&#8221;) experiment; as Collin pointed out in the comments, the CDF experiment followed with their own results soon thereafter. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Borczon</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2006/03/17/a-new-bs-mixing-results-from-d0/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>John Borczon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tommaso - I got your link from Cloudy Nights. I am an amateur astronomer/chess player myself. Do you play many tournaments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tommaso &#8211; I got your link from Cloudy Nights. I am an amateur astronomer/chess player myself. Do you play many tournaments?</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, preprints are ok once the result is public... But preprints will be more reluctantly cited by other publications. One really needs to put one&#039;s result in print in a scientific journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, preprints are ok once the result is public&#8230; But preprints will be more reluctantly cited by other publications. One really needs to put one&#8217;s result in print in a scientific journal.</p>
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		<title>By: Pietro Vischia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pietro Vischia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you allowed to send preprints to arxiv?

If so, after the blessing or only between the blessing and the publication?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you allowed to send preprints to arxiv?</p>
<p>If so, after the blessing or only between the blessing and the publication?</p>
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		<title>By: Helge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes me think about conspiracy theories, what you are telling us. ;-)

Not wanting to make mistakes so bad, is scary ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me think about conspiracy theories, what you are telling us. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Not wanting to make mistakes so bad, is scary &#8230;</p>
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