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		<title>By: The hard task of finding hadronic vector boson decays &#171; A Quantum Diaries Survivor</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/a-new-precise-top-mass-measurement-with-jets/#comment-101116</link>
		<dc:creator>The hard task of finding hadronic vector boson decays &#171; A Quantum Diaries Survivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in 1997 found hadronic decays of top quark pairs, in the decay chain  yielding six hadronic jets in the final state. Again, not an improvement on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in 1997 found hadronic decays of top quark pairs, in the decay chain  yielding six hadronic jets in the final state. Again, not an improvement on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Top mass updates from CDF: 2 - the world&#8217;s best measurement &#171; A Quantum Diaries Survivor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top mass updates from CDF: 2 - the world&#8217;s best measurement &#171; A Quantum Diaries Survivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more information on top decay is available, for instance, here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more information on top decay is available, for instance, here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Not Even Wrong &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Various Stuff</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/a-new-precise-top-mass-measurement-with-jets/#comment-29875</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Even Wrong &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Various Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the Tevatron, including a new, more accurate value of the W-mass. See for instance here, here, here, and here. About the new W-mass measurement, there&#8217;s also a Fermilab press release, and an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Tevatron, including a new, more accurate value of the W-mass. See for instance here, here, here, and here. About the new W-mass measurement, there&#8217;s also a Fermilab press release, and an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: b&#8217;, t&#8217;&#8230; what the hell! &#171; A Quantum Diaries Survivor</title>
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		<dc:creator>b&#8217;, t&#8217;&#8230; what the hell! &#171; A Quantum Diaries Survivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a question by Sabine (http://backreaction.blogspot.com/) in the comments section of a recent post (http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/a-new-precise-top-mass-measurement-with-jets/) I suggested a much bettter pair of names to the hypothesized fourth generation of quarks than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a question by Sabine (<a href="http://backreaction.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://backreaction.blogspot.com/</a>) in the comments section of a recent post (<a href="http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/a-new-precise-top-mass-measurement-with-jets/" rel="nofollow">http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/a-new-precise-top-mass-measurement-with-jets/</a>) I suggested a much bettter pair of names to the hypothesized fourth generation of quarks than [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/01/07/a-new-precise-top-mass-measurement-with-jets/#comment-22808</link>
		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yes, but I was satisfied with three colors and three units of quark electric charge. No need to involve the trinity or other tri-vialities :)

That is right, w for weird is already in the W boson, but quarks get a lowercase, so I see no real conflict... Actually, I think I will post my proposal for this naming convention, it might work!

As for the LHC effects, yours might be the best way to take the other side of my bet, indeed! &quot;a 5-sigma effect will be found by the LHC at some point, but only for as long as it takes to check it&quot;. Hell, _I_ would take the other side then!

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, but I was satisfied with three colors and three units of quark electric charge. No need to involve the trinity or other tri-vialities <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That is right, w for weird is already in the W boson, but quarks get a lowercase, so I see no real conflict&#8230; Actually, I think I will post my proposal for this naming convention, it might work!</p>
<p>As for the LHC effects, yours might be the best way to take the other side of my bet, indeed! &#8220;a 5-sigma effect will be found by the LHC at some point, but only for as long as it takes to check it&#8221;. Hell, _I_ would take the other side then!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the LHC, I bet they will have SOME preliminary signal, and everyone will jump up and down and yell &#039;I PREDICTED IT&#039;, before the whole thing vanishes in a statistical fluctuation or so. Best,

B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the LHC, I bet they will have SOME preliminary signal, and everyone will jump up and down and yell &#8216;I PREDICTED IT&#8217;, before the whole thing vanishes in a statistical fluctuation or so. Best,</p>
<p>B.</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hum. I used to think the same about the number of generations, but sometimes I&#039;m not so sure. You&#039;re thinking along the lines: three forces, three colors, 3 volumes Lord of the Rings, 3 parts of Matrix, etc? 

I like weird and nerd :-) Just that the &#039;w&#039; is already in use.

Best,

B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hum. I used to think the same about the number of generations, but sometimes I&#8217;m not so sure. You&#8217;re thinking along the lines: three forces, three colors, 3 volumes Lord of the Rings, 3 parts of Matrix, etc? </p>
<p>I like weird and nerd <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Just that the &#8216;w&#8217; is already in use.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>B.</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bee,

thank you for your kind remark... As you certainly well know, we bloggers are very sensitive to adulation ;-)

So about the fourth generation. I think we should call them weird and nerd. It would fit the bill: uctw, dsbn. 

No, I do not think there are four generations. My gut feeling is that there is something really magical about the number three. But I might be a strict minority among my peer... I personally also think there is no SuperSymmetry, and that the LHC experiment will see nothing new except the Higgs. As you might know, I bet 1000$ on that with Distler and Watts.

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bee,</p>
<p>thank you for your kind remark&#8230; As you certainly well know, we bloggers are very sensitive to adulation <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So about the fourth generation. I think we should call them weird and nerd. It would fit the bill: uctw, dsbn. </p>
<p>No, I do not think there are four generations. My gut feeling is that there is something really magical about the number three. But I might be a strict minority among my peer&#8230; I personally also think there is no SuperSymmetry, and that the LHC experiment will see nothing new except the Higgs. As you might know, I bet 1000$ on that with Distler and Watts.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, now I remember what I wrote. Do you think there is a generation heavier than top/bottom? And if, what would shell we call it? Apple and Orange? Hope and Faith? Kind and Queen?

I like your blog btw, pretty high quality.

Best,

B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, now I remember what I wrote. Do you think there is a generation heavier than top/bottom? And if, what would shell we call it? Apple and Orange? Hope and Faith? Kind and Queen?</p>
<p>I like your blog btw, pretty high quality.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>B.</p>
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