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	<title>Comments on: Awaiting news on the formerly 2.1-sigma excess of MSSM Higgs</title>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arun, all,

I will be able to post about the updated result on MSSM h into tau pairs in two or three days, but while you wait, why not looking for hints in the wine and cheese talk on the Hb-&gt;bbb search by Thomas Wright of last September (which I linked already somewhere else, but here it is:
http://theory.fnal.gov/jetp/talks/wright.pdf ) ?

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arun, all,</p>
<p>I will be able to post about the updated result on MSSM h into tau pairs in two or three days, but while you wait, why not looking for hints in the wine and cheese talk on the Hb-&gt;bbb search by Thomas Wright of last September (which I linked already somewhere else, but here it is:<br />
<a href="http://theory.fnal.gov/jetp/talks/wright.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://theory.fnal.gov/jetp/talks/wright.pdf</a> ) ?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear RMuldavin,

thank you for your interesting comment. I was unaware of the research you mention, and although I find it more imaginative than solid, I salute any off-stream attempts at understanding the structure of our universe with an open mind.

I will look up the work you point to. Anyway, winning a nobel prize is not a guarantee, a certification of seriousness of one&#039;s research. And, people change. We are not the same as 10, 20, 30 years ago. 
So, my evaluation of the recent works of Dehmelt would not consider his past achievements.

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear RMuldavin,</p>
<p>thank you for your interesting comment. I was unaware of the research you mention, and although I find it more imaginative than solid, I salute any off-stream attempts at understanding the structure of our universe with an open mind.</p>
<p>I will look up the work you point to. Anyway, winning a nobel prize is not a guarantee, a certification of seriousness of one&#8217;s research. And, people change. We are not the same as 10, 20, 30 years ago.<br />
So, my evaluation of the recent works of Dehmelt would not consider his past achievements.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arun, thank you for digging out the truth on the expression I used. I&#039;m more than happy when people correct my English, but still happier when finally proven right :)

And, I just emailed John to see when they will present their findings publically.

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arun, thank you for digging out the truth on the expression I used. I&#8217;m more than happy when people correct my English, but still happier when finally proven right <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And, I just emailed John to see when they will present their findings publically.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still waiting for the news.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still waiting for the news&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: roger muldavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger muldavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much appreciation for learning that the Higgs types are of five types:
h, H, A (the neutrals) and H+ and H-, the separation of the neutrals into three types, that&#039;s the added feature. I&#039;ll track down the essay soon.

And glad to find this site for the advanced knowledge shown.

One exception: Hans Dehmelt Nobel Prize (circa 1998) conjecture that the electron is a flat equal lateral triangle (felt) with each vertex a 1/3 charge triplet with an origin &quot;Cosmonium&quot; subsequently in which each vertex itself divided into triplets that today reached a kth level.

Visualize the Cosmonium as a mobile attached to the ceiling, each of the initial three, n=0, next dividing n=1, dropping under force of gravity or gravity related to separation from an anti-cosmonium, and say at n=k, we have today&#039;s touching surface electron, so we can be considered at the zero position of the whole number line for the unitary everyday electron with (1/3)^n, where n=0,1,2,3,4,...k.

Even add local spreads for the powers of (1/3) for mixing.

Heuristic is futuristic, assuming we humans survive. 

Dehmelt used a Penning Trap, a vacuum chamber resonating in an electromagnetic field of some 60 mega hertz and a static magnetic field such that the &quot;electron&quot; would gyrate in moving up and down.

His lab measured the gyromagnetic ration (mass rotation axial force to magnetic rotational force) out to 16 decimal places, i. e. 2.000....[16].

This was done with relatively inexpensive laboratory equipment.

Last time I checked, he is still at Univ. of Washington, Seattle, and appears to switched fields to ancient diets, that is, amounts of essential food types.  Recently another U of W, Seattle professor announced that based on three high energy collision research the neutron has a negative charged edge and center, with a positive charged between.

Thus constructing rows of wafered triplets and Higgs pentlets has kept me somewhat energized to construct pictorially possible ways to track the Internet literature.

I pounder why Dehmelt switched fields of study.  

I find very few people even appreciate his electron triplet conjecture that also included that each vertex 1/3 e+ charge (a single positron oscillated in the Penning Traps for over a month) had an energy some ten billion times that of the at-a-distance electron, which is some 1/1820 the mass of the proton.

So ever since my son at Univ. of Michigan showed me Dehmelt&#039;s Nobel Prize paper I have been pursuing the triplets.

The first obvious connection was that the quark charts gave the &quot;down~strange~bottom&quot; as a triplet of e-/3s. So why not start there?

Next the connect between the regular triplet based polyhedron and polyhedra and elemental chemical nuclei. Classical Greek Polyhedrons.

Then connect the polyhedra to mathematical descriptions.

Recently, arXiv:0709.34509.3450v1 [hep-ph] 21 Sep 2007

&quot;Fermion Masses and Mixing from Dihedral Flavor Symmetries with Preserved Subgroups&quot;

Still studying this essay, excellent, actually kind of fun to study for most of the material resides within the 25 pages. Group Theory.

To the polyhedra consider that the triplets can be stacked into wafers and these can be the basis of crystals.

Also the near 100 GeV thresholds offer plenty of opportunity for single brain analysis.  Have inches of printout, one sided, to study.

So thanks for your collaborative efforts.

Best, rmuldavin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much appreciation for learning that the Higgs types are of five types:<br />
h, H, A (the neutrals) and H+ and H-, the separation of the neutrals into three types, that&#8217;s the added feature. I&#8217;ll track down the essay soon.</p>
<p>And glad to find this site for the advanced knowledge shown.</p>
<p>One exception: Hans Dehmelt Nobel Prize (circa 1998) conjecture that the electron is a flat equal lateral triangle (felt) with each vertex a 1/3 charge triplet with an origin &#8220;Cosmonium&#8221; subsequently in which each vertex itself divided into triplets that today reached a kth level.</p>
<p>Visualize the Cosmonium as a mobile attached to the ceiling, each of the initial three, n=0, next dividing n=1, dropping under force of gravity or gravity related to separation from an anti-cosmonium, and say at n=k, we have today&#8217;s touching surface electron, so we can be considered at the zero position of the whole number line for the unitary everyday electron with (1/3)^n, where n=0,1,2,3,4,&#8230;k.</p>
<p>Even add local spreads for the powers of (1/3) for mixing.</p>
<p>Heuristic is futuristic, assuming we humans survive. </p>
<p>Dehmelt used a Penning Trap, a vacuum chamber resonating in an electromagnetic field of some 60 mega hertz and a static magnetic field such that the &#8220;electron&#8221; would gyrate in moving up and down.</p>
<p>His lab measured the gyromagnetic ration (mass rotation axial force to magnetic rotational force) out to 16 decimal places, i. e. 2.000&#8230;.[16].</p>
<p>This was done with relatively inexpensive laboratory equipment.</p>
<p>Last time I checked, he is still at Univ. of Washington, Seattle, and appears to switched fields to ancient diets, that is, amounts of essential food types.  Recently another U of W, Seattle professor announced that based on three high energy collision research the neutron has a negative charged edge and center, with a positive charged between.</p>
<p>Thus constructing rows of wafered triplets and Higgs pentlets has kept me somewhat energized to construct pictorially possible ways to track the Internet literature.</p>
<p>I pounder why Dehmelt switched fields of study.  </p>
<p>I find very few people even appreciate his electron triplet conjecture that also included that each vertex 1/3 e+ charge (a single positron oscillated in the Penning Traps for over a month) had an energy some ten billion times that of the at-a-distance electron, which is some 1/1820 the mass of the proton.</p>
<p>So ever since my son at Univ. of Michigan showed me Dehmelt&#8217;s Nobel Prize paper I have been pursuing the triplets.</p>
<p>The first obvious connection was that the quark charts gave the &#8220;down~strange~bottom&#8221; as a triplet of e-/3s. So why not start there?</p>
<p>Next the connect between the regular triplet based polyhedron and polyhedra and elemental chemical nuclei. Classical Greek Polyhedrons.</p>
<p>Then connect the polyhedra to mathematical descriptions.</p>
<p>Recently, arXiv:0709.34509.3450v1 [hep-ph] 21 Sep 2007</p>
<p>&#8220;Fermion Masses and Mixing from Dihedral Flavor Symmetries with Preserved Subgroups&#8221;</p>
<p>Still studying this essay, excellent, actually kind of fun to study for most of the material resides within the 25 pages. Group Theory.</p>
<p>To the polyhedra consider that the triplets can be stacked into wafers and these can be the basis of crystals.</p>
<p>Also the near 100 GeV thresholds offer plenty of opportunity for single brain analysis.  Have inches of printout, one sided, to study.</p>
<p>So thanks for your collaborative efforts.</p>
<p>Best, rmuldavin</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Webster entry may interest you:

Main Entry:  	grain of salt
Part of Speech:  	n
Definition:  	skepticism, reservation
Etymology:  	Latin cum grano salis, based on antidote to poison needing a grain of salt to work
Usage:  	used with &#039;with a&#039;

&quot;Pinch of salt&quot; can only be a derivative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Webster entry may interest you:</p>
<p>Main Entry:  	grain of salt<br />
Part of Speech:  	n<br />
Definition:  	skepticism, reservation<br />
Etymology:  	Latin cum grano salis, based on antidote to poison needing a grain of salt to work<br />
Usage:  	used with &#8216;with a&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;Pinch of salt&#8221; can only be a derivative.</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the clarification quasar9, but I am more confused than before... :)

I guess I will use &quot; a pinch of salt&quot; because I have in fact heard it in the past. I&#039;m however still happy to know that &quot;a grain of salt&quot; is possible too...

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the clarification quasar9, but I am more confused than before&#8230; <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I guess I will use &#8221; a pinch of salt&#8221; because I have in fact heard it in the past. I&#8217;m however still happy to know that &#8220;a grain of salt&#8221; is possible too&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Arun,

no, no updates - I will contact John Conway to hear if they have presented already their stuff. Stay tuned.

As for the bet, 1000$ is whatever the exchange rates. 
Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Arun,</p>
<p>no, no updates &#8211; I will contact John Conway to hear if they have presented already their stuff. Stay tuned.</p>
<p>As for the bet, 1000$ is whatever the exchange rates.<br />
Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: Quasar9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quasar9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol Tipitaka, don&#039;t know where you come from - so the expression there could be a &quot;grain of salt&quot;

but the English expression is a &#039;pinch of salt&#039; as in when you cook or want to put salt on your food, you take a &#039;pinch of salt&#039; between your thumb and finger (certainly more than a grain) and sprinkle it on.
Hence the expression to take life or a statement with a pinch of salt.
Oh, and don&#039;t forget to throw some over your shoulder, just for luck.

However ... to see the universe in a grain of sand
I guess a &#039;pinch&#039; of sand could give us a multiverse, though perhaps not quire 10^500 universes, unless it is very &#039;fine&#039; sand.

On the other hand the saying &quot;not having one grain of truth&quot; implies it is absolutely false.

All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol Tipitaka, don&#8217;t know where you come from &#8211; so the expression there could be a &#8220;grain of salt&#8221;</p>
<p>but the English expression is a &#8216;pinch of salt&#8217; as in when you cook or want to put salt on your food, you take a &#8216;pinch of salt&#8217; between your thumb and finger (certainly more than a grain) and sprinkle it on.<br />
Hence the expression to take life or a statement with a pinch of salt.<br />
Oh, and don&#8217;t forget to throw some over your shoulder, just for luck.</p>
<p>However &#8230; to see the universe in a grain of sand<br />
I guess a &#8216;pinch&#8217; of sand could give us a multiverse, though perhaps not quire 10^500 universes, unless it is very &#8216;fine&#8217; sand.</p>
<p>On the other hand the saying &#8220;not having one grain of truth&#8221; implies it is absolutely false.</p>
<p>All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it USD 1000 or Euro 1000? In December 2003, 1000 USD ==  1000 Euro.  Today, 1000 USD = 713 Euro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it USD 1000 or Euro 1000? In December 2003, 1000 USD ==  1000 Euro.  Today, 1000 USD = 713 Euro.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a week later; no updates?</description>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Carl, but worry not - the deadline appears far, far in the future!

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Carl, but worry not &#8211; the deadline appears far, far in the future!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: carlbrannen</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlbrannen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing what I do now about salaries in Italy, $1000 is quite a dangerous bet indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing what I do now about salaries in Italy, $1000 is quite a dangerous bet indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tripi, thanks for restoring my confidence :)
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tripi, thanks for restoring my confidence <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Arun,

indeed I never said there is a signal in the new data... Let&#039;s wait for the authors to speak though!

Quasar, about dark energy... there is a nice guest post, check the tab above.

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Arun,</p>
<p>indeed I never said there is a signal in the new data&#8230; Let&#8217;s wait for the authors to speak though!</p>
<p>Quasar, about dark energy&#8230; there is a nice guest post, check the tab above.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: Tripitaka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tripitaka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/\ &quot;grain of salt&quot; is how it is expressed where I come from</description>
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		<title>By: Quasar9</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/awaiting-news-on-the-formerly-21-sigma-excess-of-mssm-higgs/#comment-74821</link>
		<dc:creator>Quasar9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tommaso,
the search for the higgs field(s) is on
but what about dark energy - new physics is predicted
Yet there is no &#039;observable&#039; change in light travelling thru this field?

PS - I think the expression is &quot;a pinch of salt&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tommaso,<br />
the search for the higgs field(s) is on<br />
but what about dark energy &#8211; new physics is predicted<br />
Yet there is no &#8216;observable&#8217; change in light travelling thru this field?</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I think the expression is &#8220;a pinch of salt&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/awaiting-news-on-the-formerly-21-sigma-excess-of-mssm-higgs/#comment-74817</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume that if the signal for MSSM Higgs was stronger, it would leaked all over the place, if not shouted from the rooftops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume that if the signal for MSSM Higgs was stronger, it would leaked all over the place, if not shouted from the rooftops.</p>
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		<title>By: Luboš Motl</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/awaiting-news-on-the-formerly-21-sigma-excess-of-mssm-higgs/#comment-74666</link>
		<dc:creator>Luboš Motl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our original bet had the Summer 2006 deadline - delays were not taken into account. The deadline was a formality added to the conditions to make it well-defined. Of course that the moral content of the bet is whether there is low-energy supersymmetry or not and the deadline was only chosen to allow the no-SUSY side to win in principle. That&#039;s why the shift from 2006 to 2008 was easy and when it is morally (or by partial hints) justified, I am convinced that we will be ready to shift it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our original bet had the Summer 2006 deadline &#8211; delays were not taken into account. The deadline was a formality added to the conditions to make it well-defined. Of course that the moral content of the bet is whether there is low-energy supersymmetry or not and the deadline was only chosen to allow the no-SUSY side to win in principle. That&#8217;s why the shift from 2006 to 2008 was easy and when it is morally (or by partial hints) justified, I am convinced that we will be ready to shift it more.</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/awaiting-news-on-the-formerly-21-sigma-excess-of-mssm-higgs/#comment-74664</link>
		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Lubos, that is quite a dangerous bet! Never trust the schedule of these giant experimental endeavours. My $1000 bet with Distler and Watts implies that we wait for 2 years after CMS and Atlas collecting 10/fb of data... They were quite cautious with the stipulation, since they lose if SUSY (or other new physics) is not found at the LHC.

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Lubos, that is quite a dangerous bet! Never trust the schedule of these giant experimental endeavours. My $1000 bet with Distler and Watts implies that we wait for 2 years after CMS and Atlas collecting 10/fb of data&#8230; They were quite cautious with the stipulation, since they lose if SUSY (or other new physics) is not found at the LHC.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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