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	<description>private thoughts of a physicist and chessplayer</description>
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		<title>By: Some posts you might have missed in 2008 &#171; A Quantum Diaries Survivor</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/a-result-that-warms-my-heart/#comment-103441</link>
		<dc:creator>Some posts you might have missed in 2008 &#171; A Quantum Diaries Survivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  May 02 : A description of the search for Higgs bosons in the 4-jet final state, which is dear to me because I worked at that signature in the past. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  May 02 : A description of the search for Higgs bosons in the 4-jet final state, which is dear to me because I worked at that signature in the past. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/a-result-that-warms-my-heart/#comment-96853</link>
		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 06:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Toni,

I of course could -and maybe should- have quoted your thesis along with the others... But I did not lie: I forgot you and I think I forgot somebody else too. Of course your work was important for the development of the multijet trigger, and I invite you to post here a link to your thesis, for interested readers.

In any case I do not feel guilty of using any form of academic &quot;tactics&quot;... This blog&#039;s main goal is certainly not that of publicizing my own work. I actually believe the post above was rather on the &quot;politically correct&quot; side as far as this blog goes, because I did quote Valls and Troconiz, and I recognized all the authors of the Run II analysis... As you note, we are a 500+ collaboration and keeping track of any worthy effort is simply undoable.

Cheers,
T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Toni,</p>
<p>I of course could -and maybe should- have quoted your thesis along with the others&#8230; But I did not lie: I forgot you and I think I forgot somebody else too. Of course your work was important for the development of the multijet trigger, and I invite you to post here a link to your thesis, for interested readers.</p>
<p>In any case I do not feel guilty of using any form of academic &#8220;tactics&#8221;&#8230; This blog&#8217;s main goal is certainly not that of publicizing my own work. I actually believe the post above was rather on the &#8220;politically correct&#8221; side as far as this blog goes, because I did quote Valls and Troconiz, and I recognized all the authors of the Run II analysis&#8230; As you note, we are a 500+ collaboration and keeping track of any worthy effort is simply undoable.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: Neobium</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/a-result-that-warms-my-heart/#comment-96822</link>
		<dc:creator>Neobium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not blame you, but a well known tactic in the scientific world is not to quote the jobs. I believe that when you say &quot;and fruited a graduation to Giorgio Cortiana, a PhD to Luca Scodellaro and Mario Paolo Giordani (and I am certainly forgetting some other students). But as Run II started for real, and multijet events started being collected with high efficiency, we gradually lost interest&quot; you could also quote another thesis that was done on the same subject almost independently -the things of the big collaborations- (but using the SecVtx tagger) and also applying it to the HF+MET trigger for the Higgs + MET channel by Antoni Munar of Pisa (the group that developed the SVT). It was published and presented to the  CDF collaboration as well.

Of course, it is your blog and you can write whatever you want, but seems nice to recognize always an honest work.

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not blame you, but a well known tactic in the scientific world is not to quote the jobs. I believe that when you say &#8220;and fruited a graduation to Giorgio Cortiana, a PhD to Luca Scodellaro and Mario Paolo Giordani (and I am certainly forgetting some other students). But as Run II started for real, and multijet events started being collected with high efficiency, we gradually lost interest&#8221; you could also quote another thesis that was done on the same subject almost independently -the things of the big collaborations- (but using the SecVtx tagger) and also applying it to the HF+MET trigger for the Higgs + MET channel by Antoni Munar of Pisa (the group that developed the SVT). It was published and presented to the  CDF collaboration as well.</p>
<p>Of course, it is your blog and you can write whatever you want, but seems nice to recognize always an honest work.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/a-result-that-warms-my-heart/#comment-96730</link>
		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 16:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi nicola,

indeed it cannot, since the W is charged (and has weak hypercharge, too). It decays into $latex q \bar q&#039;$ pairs, like a $latex u \bar d$ or a $latex c \bar s$. The graph is not accurate...

cheers, 
t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi nicola,</p>
<p>indeed it cannot, since the W is charged (and has weak hypercharge, too). It decays into <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=q+%5Cbar+q%27&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='q \bar q&#039;' title='q \bar q&#039;' class='latex' /> pairs, like a <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=u+%5Cbar+d&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='u \bar d' title='u \bar d' class='latex' /> or a <img src='http://l.wordpress.com/latex.php?latex=c+%5Cbar+s&#038;bg=ffffff&#038;fg=000000&#038;s=0' alt='c \bar s' title='c \bar s' class='latex' />. The graph is not accurate&#8230;</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
t.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicola T.</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/a-result-that-warms-my-heart/#comment-96729</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicola T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 16:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,
How can a W decay into a q-qbar??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,<br />
How can a W decay into a q-qbar??</p>
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		<title>By: dorigo</title>
		<link>http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/a-result-that-warms-my-heart/#comment-96606</link>
		<dc:creator>dorigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi kea,

yes, thank you for correcting me. this used to be riqie&#039;s job but she left us... so the job is yours for the next hundred-fifty years.

xxx 
t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi kea,</p>
<p>yes, thank you for correcting me. this used to be riqie&#8217;s job but she left us&#8230; so the job is yours for the next hundred-fifty years.</p>
<p>xxx<br />
t.</p>
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		<title>By: Kea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....and thanks for the exciting post, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.and thanks for the exciting post, of course!</p>
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		<title>By: Kea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommaso, tut, tut. I&#039;m afraid it has to be &lt;i&gt;TO the Alps&lt;/i&gt;. English speakers aren&#039;t good at adapting the language to the perhaps more semantically correct option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommaso, tut, tut. I&#8217;m afraid it has to be <i>TO the Alps</i>. English speakers aren&#8217;t good at adapting the language to the perhaps more semantically correct option.</p>
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