Comments on: Hectic week http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/ private thoughts of a physicist and chessplayer Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:50:26 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Daniel de França MTd2 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102549 Daniel de França MTd2 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:36:08 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102549 I guess one message was filtered by the spam block. I guess one message was filtered by the spam block.

]]> By: Daniel de França MTd2 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102546 Daniel de França MTd2 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:30:51 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102546 SSC website is still online: http://www.hep.net/ssc/ SSC website is still online:

http://www.hep.net/ssc/

]]> By: Daniel de França MTd2 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102545 Daniel de França MTd2 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:30:06 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102545 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider Here's some pics of SSC: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Ssc_mdl.JPG http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Ssc_entrance.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Ssc_panorama.jpg The best use of SSC site was as a setting stage for Universal Soldier: The Return. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Soldier:_The_Return http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider

Here’s some pics of SSC:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Ssc_mdl.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Ssc_entrance.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Ssc_panorama.jpg

The best use of SSC site was as a setting stage for Universal Soldier: The Return.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Soldier:_The_Return

]]> By: Daniel de França MTd2 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102544 Daniel de França MTd2 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:23:18 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102544 I just hope Obama ressurect SSC. But I guess this is just a wet dream, don't you think? I just hope Obama ressurect SSC. But I guess this is just a wet dream, don’t you think?

]]> By: Fred http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102543 Fred Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:08:55 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102543 Hi Tommaso & H.B. to Luboš, This is going off on a tangent, but: who knows, both of you guys might be role models at a White House function one day. I was watching NBC's one hour political t.v. show "Meet the Press" today featuring Mr. Obama. At the end of his interview, he answered this to the question: "Who are the kinds of artists that you would like to bring into the White House?" PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA: "...Yes, we're going to have an education policy; yes, we're going to be putting more money into school construction. ... When it comes to science, elevating science once again, and having lectures in the White House where people are talking about traveling to the stars or breaking down atoms, inspiring our youth to get a sense of what discovery is all about. Thinking about the diversity of our culture and inviting jazz musicians and classical musicians and poetry readings in the White House so that once again we appreciate this incredible tapestry that's America. ... I think that our art and our culture, our science--you know, that's the essence of what makes America special, and we want to project that as much as possible in the White House." I'm not going to hold my breath, but it's a nod in the right direction. Hi Tommaso & H.B. to Luboš,

This is going off on a tangent, but: who knows, both of you guys might be role models at a White House function one day. I was watching NBC’s one hour political t.v. show “Meet the Press” today featuring Mr. Obama. At the end of his interview, he answered this to the question: “Who are the kinds of artists that you would like to bring into the White House?”

PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA: “…Yes, we’re going to have an education policy; yes, we’re going to be putting more money into school construction. … When it comes to science, elevating science once again, and having lectures in the White House where people are talking about traveling to the stars or breaking down atoms, inspiring our youth to get a sense of what discovery is all about. Thinking about the diversity of our culture and inviting jazz musicians and classical musicians and poetry readings in the White House so that once again we appreciate this incredible tapestry that’s America. … I think that our art and our culture, our science–you know, that’s the essence of what makes America special, and we want to project that as much as possible in the White House.”

I’m not going to hold my breath, but it’s a nod in the right direction.

]]> By: Luboš Motl http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102532 Luboš Motl Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:23:41 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102532 Thanks, Tommaso, for not having forgotten about the sane birthday celebrators, like your humble correspondent. Too bad that you can't even give us the plain Higgs as a gift. The experimenters are retarded by 35 years or so but it is the theorists who are criticized for this retardation by the deranged role models of yours such as PW. ;-) Thanks, Tommaso, for not having forgotten about the sane birthday celebrators, like your humble correspondent. Too bad that you can’t even give us the plain Higgs as a gift. The experimenters are retarded by 35 years or so but it is the theorists who are criticized for this retardation by the deranged role models of yours such as PW. ;-)

]]> By: Amos http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102516 Amos Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:12:48 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102516 I was actually serious, although I also rather think you were ineligible... I was actually serious, although I also rather think you were ineligible…

]]> By: dorigo http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102515 dorigo Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:04:28 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102515 Daniel, no, H->ZZ production is too rare at the Tevatron to yield a meaningful signal in few inverse femtobarns. The problem is that you usually can discern it only in the ZZ->ll l'l' final state (l, l' are charged leptons). The branching fraction of Z->ll is 3.3% for each lepton type, and if you can only see electrons and muons that makes 6.6% for each Z, or 0.4% in total for two Z's. So only one in 250 H->ZZ can be seen that way... And the H does not always go to ZZ: at most, a quarter of the time. All in all, a tough channel at the Tevatron, where H production is expected to be a low-rate phenomenon. The larger LHC energy will allow more of such events to be produced. Cheers, T. Daniel, no, H->ZZ production is too rare at the Tevatron to yield a meaningful signal in few inverse femtobarns. The problem is that you usually can discern it only in the ZZ->ll l’l’ final state (l, l’ are charged leptons). The branching fraction of Z->ll is 3.3% for each lepton type, and if you can only see electrons and muons that makes 6.6% for each Z, or 0.4% in total for two Z’s. So only one in 250 H->ZZ can be seen that way… And the H does not always go to ZZ: at most, a quarter of the time.

All in all, a tough channel at the Tevatron, where H production is expected to be a low-rate phenomenon. The larger LHC energy will allow more of such events to be produced.

Cheers,
T.

]]> By: dorigo http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102514 dorigo Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:59:35 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102514 Amos, don't worry - I like to win uncertain bets, not to strip money off people aimlessly. My email is publically available, but for you I will make the exception of not disclosing it ;-) Cheers, T. Amos, don’t worry – I like to win uncertain bets, not to strip money off people aimlessly. My email is publically available, but for you I will make the exception of not disclosing it ;-)

Cheers,
T.

]]> By: Amos http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102512 Amos Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:57:34 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102512 I can't find your e-mail address on the site... E-mail me at mine (which I enter each time I post) and I'll send the 10. I can’t find your e-mail address on the site… E-mail me at mine (which I enter each time I post) and I’ll send the 10.

]]> By: Amos http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102511 Amos Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:55:42 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102511 Lol, all I said was "signal," but if you're saying you didn't get even that... Ok. You'll get the paypal notification in a minute. Lol, all I said was “signal,” but if you’re saying you didn’t get even that… Ok. You’ll get the paypal notification in a minute.

]]> By: Daniel de França MTd2 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102508 Daniel de França MTd2 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:39:58 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102508 Sorry, I mean, "enough statistics". Sorry, I mean, “enough statistics”.

]]> By: Daniel de França MTd2 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102507 Daniel de França MTd2 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:59:32 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102507 "Not CDF or D0, since they have insufficient statistics yet. Not CMS or ATLAS, since they have zero stats." Can you tell if any of them as statistics enough to find Higgs using the method you mentioned? “Not CDF or D0, since they have insufficient statistics yet. Not CMS or ATLAS, since they have zero stats.”

Can you tell if any of them as statistics enough to find Higgs using the method you mentioned?

]]> By: dorigo http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102500 dorigo Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:51:07 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102500 So happy birthday to all the sane and the deranged minds out there! Cheers, T. So happy birthday to all the sane and the deranged minds out there!
Cheers,
T.

]]> By: dorigo http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102499 dorigo Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:50:03 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102499 I agree, it would be a spectacular gift to anybody. Unfortunately I am not so wealthy... Cheers, T. I agree, it would be a spectacular gift to anybody. Unfortunately I am not so wealthy…
Cheers,
T.

]]> By: dorigo http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102498 dorigo Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:49:27 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102498 Well unfortunately not... As of today, nobody can announce the discovery of the Higgs boson. Not CDF or D0, since they have insufficient statistics yet. Not CMS or ATLAS, since they have zero stats. So I am glad to bet $10 with you that I do not, in fact, have found the Higgs... Cheers, T. Well unfortunately not… As of today, nobody can announce the discovery of the Higgs boson. Not CDF or D0, since they have insufficient statistics yet. Not CMS or ATLAS, since they have zero stats. So I am glad to bet $10 with you that I do not, in fact, have found the Higgs…
Cheers,
T.

]]> By: dorigo http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102497 dorigo Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:47:55 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102497 Hah Daniel, I found several tens. The problem is that it is only a Monte Carlo study so far. Once I get the data, I am pretty sure that if the Higgs boson is there, it will pop up in my search channel too. But not before! Hah Daniel, I found several tens. The problem is that it is only a Monte Carlo study so far. Once I get the data, I am pretty sure that if the Higgs boson is there, it will pop up in my search channel too. But not before!

]]> By: Daniel de França MTd2 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102495 Daniel de França MTd2 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:00:29 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102495 Hmm, Lubos birthday is also today. Hmm, Lubos birthday is also today.

]]> By: Daniel de França MTd2 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102494 Daniel de França MTd2 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:57:23 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102494 BTW, my birthday is today. If you have found the Higgs, please, tell me. That would be a great birthday gift :). BTW, my birthday is today. If you have found the Higgs, please, tell me. That would be a great birthday gift :) .

]]> By: Amos http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2008/12/04/hectic-week/#comment-102493 Amos Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:47:30 +0000 http://dorigo.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-102493 $10 says he found a signal, and the reason for this blog post was to get us to pay attention to the announcement tomorrow. $10 says he found a signal, and the reason for this blog post was to get us to pay attention to the announcement tomorrow.

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