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Spelling, mr. President ? September 26, 2007

Posted by dorigo in humor, language, news, politics.
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George W. Bush may not be the smartest person in the United States, but until today one could hope he was at least able to learn a few toponyms and the name of leaders of foreign countries. I know some five-year-olds that can, but hey, they did not have the time to waste their brains with alcohol yet.

Well, no hope is left after the disclosure by mistake of the hardcopy of his speech at the United Nations, which his aides wrote with capitalized inserts to help him pronounce correctly some words he is not familiar with. Here is an image of a page of his personal copy of the speech:

Here are a few of the suggestions for George (source):

  • Sarkozy [sar-KO-zee]
  • Kyrgyzstan [KEYR-geez-stan]
  • Harare [hah-RAR-ray]
  • Mauritania [moor-EH-tain-ee-a]
  • Khartoum [car- TOOM]
  • Mugabe [moo-GAH-bee]
  • Caracas [kah-RAH-kus]

 Read with me, George: vaf – fan – KOOLOW !

Comments

1. jeff - September 26, 2007

tommaso
I know physiscts that still don’t know how to pronounce physics words in english inspite their superior knowledge, intelligence and familiarity with thse same words. Hmmm

2. dorigo - September 26, 2007

Jeff, are you talking of anglosaxons or non-English-natives ? Because it does make a difference, as you well know.

Anyway sure, we all make mistakes in the pronunciation of foreign terms. And Bush was not elected for his eloquence. Or for his intelligence. Or for his knowledge. Remind me, what was he elected for ?😉

Cheers,
T.

3. fliptomato - September 26, 2007

Wait, are you saying Bush isn’t intelligent? Need I remind you of his contributions to particel physics — in particular his input on B-decay analysis at Fermilab, as reported in this reputable news source?

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38718
🙂

Best wishes,
F.

4. Francis Caestecker - September 26, 2007

Haha, yes the onion😀.

I can imagine George sitting in his oval office, looking at his speech. “Condi, whyyyy did weee haave to attaack middle-east? Attaaacking texasss wudda bean daaamn easiah!”

5. jeff - September 26, 2007

I am speaking about foreign physcists. Bush is a U.S. American and it is comprehensible that he is not able to pronounce foreign words and needs prompts. Everyone that learns a new language uses similar tricks. It is also comprehensible that a foreign physcist is simply not able to pronouce english physics words. But the postulate goes that Bush is not-intelligent while physicists are VERY intelligent.

If you don’t like Bush you are free to criticize and even verbally lynch him, but at least do it in a fair way.

6. Francis Caestecker - September 26, 2007

@Jeff

Yes, quite probably, but the way it’s written “phonetically” is still americanized version of it. And on the other hand, I hope he used the word before, without having a cue-card in front of him, otherwise he has some poor involvement😀. If he’s using it in a speech, he should atleast know it by heart till then. This just gives the impression that he’s a simple actor of the government.

He’s not a physicist, he’s the most powerful man on earth.

7. jeff - September 26, 2007

Caestecker. I guess I did not make my point clear.
I know is the most powerful man but he is still a man. Its that simple

8. dorigo - September 26, 2007

Hi Jeff,

sorry, I do not know how to lynch somebody fairly🙂

Anyway, I question putting in charge a man who is manifestly incompetent. An ordinary Joe is just welcome if he can’t spell Uzbekhistan (sp?). A US president who elects himself as the defender of world freedom should have better credentials IMO. But maybe I am missing something.

Cheers,
T.

9. Fred - September 26, 2007

Pathetic! A poster child for “Drugs Abusers Do Harm Others” if there ever was one. Here is a person who has been endowed with privileges that very few in the entire universe will ever realize. There is no excuse for his communicative skills, verbal or otherwise, by any stretch of the imagination. But it pales in comparison to his hateful thoughts and policies towards others. He passionately cries for the death of his enemies while promoting intimidation and inciting fear in his allies. Christian, my ass! for those who embrace the teachings of Jesus Christ. But the real ignorant and self indulgent bastard in the whole scenario is the rest of us, the citizens of the U.S., who twice voted this person to our highest office as well as 96% of the spineless congressional members we keep re-electing every two years. The kindest thing that can be said of this particular juvenile is that he will deservedly go down as one of the most hated individuals in the history of civilization. Can 5 billion+ people be wrong? Who knows? I, for one, spit on his existence and his ilk. Not all sick creatures deserve our compassion and his days of innocence have long expired. Yes, he certainly is the current face of America, whether we like it or not. Can we get some ketchup with that hotdog?

10. jeff - September 26, 2007

Of course I am playing with you when I say that you should be fair when you lynch him. A “fair lynch”. An oxymoron. (some of my favorites: “same difference”; “pretty ugly”; “approximatey equal to”; “devout athesist”; “comunista democratico”; “fascista democratico”;…).

That Bush’s linquistic capabilities are not very good when it comes to spelling or pronoucing foreign names is a fact. But what does that have to do with having credentials for governing? Indeed any suggestions on how to recruit our representatives to government? Who is to decide what credentials are to be used? You? Physcists? Scientists? Philosophers? How about a group of “wise men”? Who, by Jove, is to decide who is to be admitted into the deciding group of wise men and who is to be excluded or kicked out (for we might be wise in certain moments of our lives, but are we always wise?). Indeed I firmly believe there should be no list of credentials. That is democracy’s greatness and weakness (hey another oxymoronic concept).

jeff

p.s. You are free to think, with many others, that Bush was and is stupid and shouldn’t have been put be in charge in the first place. America is a super power? Yes! Bush is a very powerful man? Yes. But Bush is not a tyrant or king that decides irrespective of what the people think. Remember that decision to attack Iraq was backed by the majority of congress and senate with many democrats voting in favor. That is history. It is all too simple to say that it is all Bush’s fault. Again, to be consistent with what I said in the Grillo thread, one should make a brave step forward and ask the american people where were they were when the decision was made. Personally I was in favor (Bush dad should have done the job earlier) for reason I already expressed in your blog sometime ago (little to do with WMD or exportation of democracy), and still think it was the thing to do, but was and to lesser extent and still appalled with how many stupid mistakes were and are still made after end of the war proper.

11. jeff - September 26, 2007

Hey Fred.
I think there are more constructive ways of fighting political battles than letting yourself get worked up by hatred.
Ciao

12. dorigo - September 26, 2007

Hi Jeff,
nice list of oxymorons indeed. And the humor of your prayer had not escaped me, I just wanted to stress it.

As for Bush, I do not give much weight to his ignorance. You are right when you say that a sound democratic system should allow people who are less than geniuses to sit in the oval office. But being unable to stop him, dethrone him, defenestrate him, or harming him in any way, I just choose to mock him.

Cheers,
T.

13. Shard J - September 26, 2007

I think it’s sad, really. I meane, have you guys seen the video of him debating as Governor of Texas? He’s really gone mentally downhill since then, when he sounded like a competent adult. I just hope he makes it to the end of his term without having to have Cheney step in.

14. carlbrannen - September 26, 2007

In the US, even newscasters who are presumably chosen for their eloquence and use of the language mispronounce stuff all the time. Jimmy Carter, well known by liberals to be the most intelligent US President after Kennedy was famous for pronouncing nuclear as “nucular”.

For those who have forgotten, or perhaps foreigners who are unaware of their US history, Kenedy was a Democrat who got elected by accusing the Republicans of not building enough hydrogen bombs, then got us into Vietnam, botched an illegal invasion of Cuba, and nearly started a nuclear war in an incident that saw the American public digging fallout shelters in their basements.

If you really want to see bad pronunciation, you have to look at foreigners speaking English by the way. The US has a population over 300 million which almost universally speaks English. Those who don’t speak English are learning it about as fast as they can because they don’t want to have crappy jobs. This region (along with Canada) is the largest expanse of a single language speaking region on the planet. For this reason, Americans do not have the pressure or necessity of learning foreign languages that is present in those parts of the world that are filled with a mish mash of tiny nations. A phrase that comes to mind was recently used by a French diplomat: “shitty little countries”, a phrase that the US would use to refer to France, which isn’t even as large as either of the two largest US states, Alaska and Texas.

My experience of snobbishness on pronunciation (and also grammar now that I think of it) is that the pickiest department on campus is not the physics or english departments, but instead is the mathematics department. In the math department, deviates are almost universally corrected by people who look down their noses at those who don’t know how to speak right. I say if a politician wants to talk about foreign places, and wants to try to make his message clear, more power to him, either party.

AND as long as I’m on this topic, I think Bush is an idiot, but as far as foreign language skills, he exceeds the US average in that he speaks Spanish, fluent or not.

15. Francis Caestecker - September 26, 2007

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucular

Haha.

U.S. Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter (who served as an officer on a United States Navy experimental nuclear submarine[3]), Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush have all used this pronunciation,[4][5][6] however Bush has become most closely associated with it owing to his repeated mispronunciation of this and many other words, as well as his use of words of his own invention.

16. dorigo - September 26, 2007

Hi Carl,

I have to say it is not foreign language skills which I was discussing (and speaking _one_ foreign language is pretty darn awful for the President of a big country), but culture, and the ability to name the people he has to talk to. He is not asked to name a country how it is called in its original language, but in English, in fact. Mauritania ? Come on, that is not speaking a foreign language. Sarkozy ? I am sure there are people with harder names in his entourage.

I think somebody speaking on behalf of 280,000,000 citizens of the US should have excellent, not ridiculous, communication skills.

And snobbishness on pronunciation is on HIS side, not elsewhere. If you have your aides write down the pronunciation of words for your speeches, it means you DO care to avoid making mistakes. Which is perfectly ok, of course -only, it shows you can’t hold more information in your brain than liquid in your bladder.

Cheers,
T.

17. changcho - September 26, 2007

Hello, just a few comments:

1. “But what does that have to do with having credentials for governing” Indeed, it is quite clear to most people that this moron has no credentials for governing.

2. “But Bush is not a tyrant or king that decides irrespective of what the people think” bush DOES decide irrespective of what people think; have you not been following the news in the past few years?
He is not a king, but does that count as a tyrant?

3. “he exceeds the US average in that he speaks Spanish, fluent or not.” Sorry to burst your bubble, but I’ve heard him “speak” Spanish and all he knows how to say is no more than a couple of hardly-understood phrases; that does not count as speaking Spanish.

This little man is an embarrassment of historical proportions; future historians will not be kind to him.

BTW, that Onion article is great!

18. riqie arneberg - September 26, 2007

“But Bush is not a tyrant or king that decides irrespective of what the people think”

Sorry Jefrf, but Dubbya ignores the law and fires those with the
temerity to tell him so.


‘ Americans do not have the pressure or necessity of learning foreign languages that is present in those parts of the world that are filled with a mish mash of tiny nations. ”

Obviously Carl has never tried to get a labor job in Texas.
English is not required, but “Mexican” is.

19. Louise - September 27, 2007

Having heard many physicists who never master pronunciation, one gets used to it. I am much more concerned about the guy who questions the holocaust and says there are no homosexuals in Iran. That is really chilling.

20. Arun - September 27, 2007

Let me say what I’m concerned about too

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/ellsberg2.html

21. Arun - September 27, 2007

And this:
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002374.php

As far as this President is concerned, if people spit on him in the street, that will not be punishment enough.

22. jeff - September 27, 2007

Riqie. It think that “Dubbya” is using his prerogatives and not breaking any law when he fires someone. Else some mechanism would have kicked in, some formal procedure would have been initiated to block “Dubbya”. I haven’t heard that “Dubbya” is under investigation for breaking the law. If you know of something please inform us. In democracy there are rules. If the rules are broken then legal action is taken, else only political actions are possibile. In particular if you don’t like what he and his friends did or do then you know what to do election time!

Arun. If it makes you and others feel elevated by spitting on him in the street then by all means spit! But don’t expect to be admired for it.

23. riqie arneberg - September 27, 2007

Jeff:

I have no desire to spit on anyone. There have been numerous examples of lawbreaking reported in the mainstream media. I won’t bore you with a list, but one example is his authorization of eavesdropping on citizens without a warrant. What troubles me is not the fact that he has fired people, rather the fact that he does this in order to find someone who will tell him what he wants to hear.

Last time i checked, the US was not a democrecy but a democratic republic.

The jpb of prosecuting lawmakers falls upon the justice department which is headed by the attorney general. If you seriously believe that dubbya would have appointed anyone who might dare to prosecute him you need help.

24. dorigo - September 27, 2007

Wow. The man sure has had one merit, it seems: he is controversial, or rather capable of polarizing people’s opinion about himself and what he does.

Arun, I too am very concerned about the next moves of the Bush administration in the middle east. There is no limit to the amount of damage it is capable of causing, apparently.

Louise, I perfectly agree that there is a ranking in the importance of issues, and pronunciation is hardly at the top… The condition of homosexuals in Iran is quite bad, and civil rights are seriously wanting there. As far as the little bearded man and his negationism are concerned, I think it is instead a minor issue, albeit quite nagging.

You know, I hope we do not end raiding Iran because of these reasons, though. The fact that they are in the spotlight these days has to do with brainwashing in the preparation of a military action, and so I keep a detached position although I know they are real issues. There are many other places in the world where civil rights are more neglected than in Iran…

Riqie, Jeff: behave😉 I think your opinions are too different for a constructive discussion, but thanks for trying.

Cheers,
T.

25. dorigo - September 27, 2007

Hello changcho,

I too think we’ll have to wait maybe twenty years and put him in perspective, and his case will be quite indefensible.

I knew about the onion piece, quite nice indeed…

Cheers,
T.

26. jeff - September 28, 2007

Riqie
Arun is the spitter! You don’t? Well good for you.

The USA is not a democracy but a democratic republic? I see; well what do you know; you learn something everyday; shucks I should have known; by golly; gee thanks for pointing that out; well I’ll be damned; wait let me sit down; what in God’s name was I thinking; OH MY GOD!!!; I’m out of here!….

27. Arun - September 30, 2007

People have drawn up Particulars of Impeachment of this President. The problem is that the Congress has not had the spine to proceed with it, even after some promised to do so. Maybe some of them have arguable reasons, e.g., my own Representative Rush Holt, as I report here.

BTW, I feel quite justified in talking about this here, ’cause Rush Holt belongs to the fraternity of physicists..

Finally, I’m not looking for admiration. Arthur Silber convincing argues:

“…I note that murder, chaos, devastation and human suffering on an ungraspable scale are what the U.S. governing class wants. Is it what you want? For many Americans, the answer is: Yes. Yes, it is.

God damn all such people to hell.”

—-

Bush has been worse for Iraq than the Mongol hordes that specialized in massacre, and he should go to hell. The only problem I have with that is, that hell doesn’t exist. So, I’m working on the seven curses which can be realized in this world, while Bush & Co are still around, and among the curses are that people spit on the cursed in public.

28. Arun - September 30, 2007

The President has violated his oath to uphold the Constitution.

The crimes that Bush ought to be impeached for but unfortunately will not are (btw, Jeff, the remedy for crimes by the President is impeachment)

1. Warrantless surveillance of American citizens in violation of the Constitution.
2. The suspension of habeas corpus in violation of the Constitution
3. The authorization of torture, in violation of the Constitution as well as in violation of the Geneva Conventions, a US Treaty obligation and as binding as the Constitution.

Actually, for the last, the President needs to face charges of crimes against humanity from the International Court of Justice. Unfortunately, since there is no one powerful enough to bring him up on charges, that will not happen either.

29. Arun - September 30, 2007

Three posts in a row is probably against etiquette, but I want to point out that the fountain of conventional wisdom in the US, Thomas Friedman, billionaire and New York Times columnists has finally, after six years, had a glimmering of sense (though for poor reasons):

“This: 9/11 has made us stupid. I honor, and weep for, all those murdered on that day. But our reaction to 9/11 — mine included — has knocked America completely out of balance, and it is time to get things right again.”

For six years, many of us **Americans** have recognized that America is out of balance. So much so that one of my friends, a ex-Cuban dissident physicist, emigrated, now a American dissident. He didn’t want to fight the same battles twice in a lifetime, which I can understand.

Unfortunately, the people knocked stupid still predominate in the American political discourse.

30. jeff - September 30, 2007

Arun
impeach him! Just do it! What are you waiting for? Bla bla or action?

31. Arun - September 30, 2007

Jeff, you are one of those knocked stupid, aren’t you?

32. Arun - September 30, 2007
33. dorigo - October 1, 2007

Hi Arun,

despite the fact that I appreciate your other comments here and I rather subscribe to your views on US politics than to Jeff’s, I have to ask you to keep the discussion on a more placid tone. I understand your hot-blooded reaction but it really does not help the dialogue, and I think it does not belong here.

Cheers,
T.

34. jeff - October 1, 2007

Arun
I was encouraging you! Sarcastically? Of course, as I don’t like spitters! But even if I provoked you a little, your insulting me is quite a stupid reaction. You see, even now all I am saying is that your previous spitting and present reactions are stupid, not that YOU are stupid. Always criticize the actions not the person, else it becomes personal. Don’t you think so too?

35. dorigo - October 1, 2007

Hi Jeff,

for once being the censor rather than the censored, I have to say that it is true, saying something one did is stupid is milder than calling one a stupid. However, the distinction is not huge: as Forrest Gump said, “stupid is who acts stupid”… So I would rather have commenters here refrain from using the term. English is such a wonderfully rich language, and as a bilingual you have the advantage of a freer access to all latin-derived terms: can’t you find a softer way to put it ?

Cheers,
T.

36. jeff - October 1, 2007

Here is my very best.
Arun liquidates my sarcasm by saying that I am stupid. I’ll let it go as I can live with that. I do hope Arun stops defending his political ideals using insults and body liquids.

37. dorigo - October 1, 2007

Hi Arun,

“The only problem I have with that is, that hell doesn’t exist. So, I’m working on the seven curses which can be realized in this world, while Bush & Co are still around, and among the curses are that people spit on the cursed in public.”

That’s funny – I would never spit on anybody because I am too well-bred to consider doing it, but I would not mind at all if that was the reaction of americans to Bush and his aides.

Cheers,
T.

38. dorigo - October 1, 2007

Hi Jeff,

see, I know you would have been able to come up with a better version🙂

Cheers,
T.

39. Arun - October 1, 2007

Hi Tommaso,

I do not think I was being insulting or heated. I quoted a most respected American journalist, Thomas Friedman, in what is considered USA’s newspaper of record, the New York Times, that many Americans had been knocked stupid by 9/11. Now, that can only be true if it applied to many specific individuals. So how is my pointing out one of those individuals insulting? If you have a complaint, it should really be with the NYT and Friedman, no?

Also, one cannot be gentlemanly about something that has led to the death of about a million people and conversion to refugee of about two million people.

But your blog, your rules!

Still working on the seven curses. “May you never have peaceful slumber” again is one, “May your children disown you” another.

In some countries, there are lynchings, or the dead leader is hung in public and desecrated, so “I spit upon you” is relatively mild.

In any case spitting is celebrated in so many public displays:

Here

Here

Here

I hope you get the idea. I respect your sensibilities but am totally puzzled as to from where they came.

-Arun

40. Arun - October 1, 2007

Just in case, emphasis added:

spit : to express hatred, contempt, etc., by or as if by ejecting saliva from the mouth.

41. dorigo - October 1, 2007

Hi Arun,

indeed – I had not caught the connection between your calling Jeff a stupid and the NYT article. No, I do not think that was insulting after all. However, it is far too easy for discussions on hot topics such as the infamous actions of GWB to degenerate, so I thought it useful to mention how I would like comments to be here to you two…

As for the virtual vs real spitting, one never ceases to learn! And about my habit of not spitting –🙂 – I was in no way implying I am better than those who do.

Cheers,
T.

42. jeff - October 1, 2007

Tommaso. You and Arun sound almost like two doves planning a life together.

Arun wrote:
“Jeff, you are one of those knocked stupid, aren’t you?”
I said I can live with being called stupid. But, by Jove, just out of sheer curiosity I do ask how does Arun expect to count for much in the fight for democracy against Bush or any tyrant for that matter if he throws strones and then hides his hands, insults and then denys doing it, or says that someone else said it.

43. dorigo - October 1, 2007

LOL Jeff, better than a dove living with a hawk next door🙂

Look, I of course am closer to Arun’s views on this issue… That’s life. However, if I am allowed to interfere in your exchanges: I think he was not insulting – he only likened you to many who like Friedman were somehow misled by 9/11 in what they believed was right for America. He was provocative, though – so you have the right to feel provoked🙂

Cheers
T.

44. jeff - October 1, 2007

Tommaso.
Provoked? Moi?
But who was I being provoked by? Arun? Friedman?
Friedman! But then who is Arun?

You are free to think Arun wasn’t insulting and I am free to think he was annoyed, lost control and cut me short with a “you are…stupid, aren’t you”.

45. Arun - October 2, 2007

It is interesting where we started – “Bush is a regular person who has done no wrong” to “Arun got annoyed, spitting is blah blah, whine, whine, personal insult” etc., Nothing to say in defense of Bush any more?

“You are knocked stupid” means you were hit a blow that stunned you. It doesn’t mean you started out stupid or are permanently stupid.

However, comment #44 does make me think the condition is permanent in some cases.

46. Arun - October 2, 2007

Dear Tommaso,

The exchange above is typical of the current state of politics in the US of A. General Petraeus testified to Congress about the results of the “surge” strategy in Iraq. He basically cooked the statistics to make it appear that the surge was successful. But instead of focussing on what is really happening, the US Senate got into this groove of condemning a political organization (moveon.org) that called General Petraeus “Betray us”. No concern for the real deaths and casualties in Iraq, or the failure of the President’s and the General’s policy.

Likewise here. Jeff has made it all about Arun and not about Bush. At least, let’s make it about Jeff, who said above that he supported the war in Iraq. On what basis, with what reasons?

There is the Ledeen doctrine “”every now and again the United States has to pick up a crappy little country and throw it against a wall just to prove we are serious.” (Michael Ledeen is a neoconservative pundit and cheerleader of the war in Iraq.) I gave you a link previously of Thomas Friedman – he was not any different. The natural sorrow, fear and anger of people after 9/11 was channeled into this feeling and led by the President and Vice-President turned against Iraq. So effectively that there is still a large number of Americans who believe 9/11 was caused by Saddam Hussein. If anyone was spat in the face, it was those Cassandras who tried to point out that war with Iraq was a mistake. VP Cheney knew what disaster would result.

And added to that, on the home front, Americans forgot:

“Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety – Benjamin Franklin”.

That is when my friend emigrated. I believe but am slowly losing faith that things can be put right.

It is a collective insanity, Tommaso, the position of the leaders of the opposition party is nicely captured by this cartoon.

Jeff called them “his [Arun’s] political ideals” but if he is a member of this civilization, they are supposed to be his ideals too. If anything annoyed me, that would be it.

In Hindi we have a saying “Vinasha kale viparit buddhi” – roughly, when one’s downfall is fated, the mind behaves perversely. All the good qualities one had that might enable one to avert disaster inexplicably become non-functional. This is America today.

47. jeff - October 2, 2007

WOW.

48. jeff - October 2, 2007

That WOW was not 100% sarcastic (just a little bit).
I AM asking myself “Did I lose this one?”

Mark Twain:

“Get your facts first, then you can distort them as much as you please.” (Mark Twain)

“Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable.” (Mark Twain)

“The first principle is that you must not fool yourself – and you are the easiest person to fool.” (Feynman)

“Deep in human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic.” (Frank Herbert)

49. dorigo - October 2, 2007

Hi Arun,

I appreciate your comment above, I think you pictured the situation quite well and I totally agree with the analysis you made of the situation.

I also think it is very hard to counter your arguments, and I believe those who once supported Bush and his foreign politics must now feel frustrated because it is quite tough to take it upon themselves to defend Bush and his criminal actions. I think that does not mean they are dishonest, and in fact the coming out of people like Friedman, saying “we were stupid”, is a sign of the impossibility of neglecting the mounting evidence.

Thank you also for Franklin’s sentence, which I will use in a post tomorrow (for the series “the say of the week”).

Cheers,
T.

50. dorigo - October 2, 2007

Ciao Jeff,

your quotes are as interesting as the one cited by Arun. But indeed, I think we need to stop arguing about whether Bush is a criminal or a hero, a moron or a genius, etc. I rather believe we would agree that the situation in the middle east is worse now than it was five years ago, and that tens of thousands -a number of the same order of magnitude, if not larger, than those that died because of Saddam’s regime- have lost their life because of the US war. These are facts, and not much more is needed to conclude: Bush failed to make the world safer.

Once we agree on that, the rest can really be a placid discussion…

Cheers,
T.

51. changcho - October 2, 2007

Extremely well stated Arun, and I am 100% in agreement.

52. Arun - October 4, 2007

For your reading pleasure: Glenn Greenwald
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/10/03/smith/index.html

53. Vera - October 6, 2007

Dear Jeff, I think the problem are not the physicists. The problems is that even my grandma knows how to pronounce Karthoum, or at least if I taught her she would immediately get it, and she wouldn’t need the spelling. I feel the fact that he needs the spelling it’s a funny example which leads you to ask yourself: “what could this guy do when his intelligence is occupied in more important problems?!”
The problem is that I feel this is the most forgivable thing in Bush…

54. Arun - October 6, 2007
55. Arun - October 9, 2007

Methinks you’ll enjoy this. Doesn’t matter if you’re right about your criticisms of the President, you had better not be shrill!

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/wherefore_shrillblog.html

56. Larry Gressel - April 21, 2009

Whoever wrote the directive above for correct pronounciation is sorely lacking in linguistic skills. Even a 5 year old child could do better in some cases.

Sarkosy [czar-KO-zee] or, [“Zar”-KO-zee]
Kyrgyzstan [KEER-jist-stahn]
Harare [ha-RAH-reh]
Mauritania [mah-uhr-ee-TAHN-i-ah]
Khartoum [car-TOOM]

*Congrads, you got that last one right!

Mugabe [moo-GAHB-eh]
Caracas [kah-RAH-kahs]

Why does it seem that those who criticize negatively the most often are also the ones who make the most errors?

Larry, the multi-lingual, MENSAN, and linguist.

dorigo - April 21, 2009

Dear Larry,
thank you for your comment. You should be aware that this site has moved to scientific blogging
Cheers,
T.

57. Larry Gressel - April 23, 2009

Thanks T

I managed to stumble on this site while cruising for different time vs space dimension possibilities. It seems that they are likely possibly endless and immeasureable, both in numbers AND in attributes.

I’ll check out the site.

Cheers

Larry


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