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Foreign students and researchers may come to Italy again February 21, 2008

Posted by dorigo in news, politics, science.
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The good news today is that a government decree cancels the insane rules of the Bossi-Fini law which made almost impossible for foreign students and research scholars to come to Italy for their studies. 

The decree (n. 17/2008) determines looser requirements for extra-UE citizens who seek to enter Italy. Accepting the european directive on the admission of citizens from extra-UE states for scientific purposes, the institutes will be able to obtain a visa for foreigners, avoiding lengthy bureaucracy and barrages.

Bossi and Fini, the first a xenophobe and the second an ex-fascist, cooked up a very restrictive law in 2002 as members of the Berlusconi government. The law dictated the procedure of expulsion of illegal foreigners or ones with no documents. It also made much tighter the legal admission of immigrants. It is this second part of the law which has partly been overruled today.  

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1. Amara - February 22, 2008

Sorry to be a pessimistic voice in this good news, but if the foreign students and researchers are to benefit from these new laws, then the secretaries and administrators at the Italian institutes and the Questura in Roma must know about them and how to use them. Definitely _not_ guaranteed.

2. Amara - February 22, 2008

To follow up: Not many people (including the administrators at my former Italian research institute) were aware of:

http://www.giustizia.it/cassazione/leggi/dlgs286_98.html#ART27

which says that the: ‘professori universitari e ricercatori destinati a svolgere in Italia un incarico accademico o un’attività retribuita di ricerca presso università, istituti di istruzione e di ricerca operanti in Italia;’ are out of any ‘quota’ since their status, their quality, is much different fron the normal status of ‘lavoratori subordinati’.

There is also this other law (189 del 2002)
http://www.parlamento.it/leggi/02189l.htm
where (art. 4) they say
——
1. Al testo unico di cui al decreto legislativo n. 286 del 1998, all’ articolo 4, sono apportate le seguenti modificazioni: a) il comma 2 è sostituito dal seguente:
«2. Il visto di ingresso è rilasciato dalle rappresentanze diplomatiche o consolari italiane nello Stato di origine o di stabile residenza dello straniero. Per soggiorni non superiori a tre mesi sono equiparati ai visti rilasciati dalle rappresentanze diplomatiche e consolari italiane quelli emessi, sulla base di specifici accordi, dalle autorità diplomatiche o consolari di altri Stati. Contestualmente al rilascio del visto di ingresso l’autorità diplomatica o consolare italiana consegna allo straniero una comunicazione scritta in lingua a lui comprensibile o, in mancanza, in inglese, francese, spagnolo o arabo, che illustri i diritti e i doveri dello straniero relativi all’ingresso ed al soggiorno in Italia. Qualora non sussistano i requisiti previsti dalla normativa in vigore per procedere al rilascio del visto, l’autorità diplomatica o consolare comunica il diniego allo straniero in lingua a lui comprensibile, o, in mancanza, in inglese, francese, spagnolo o arabo. In deroga a quanto stabilito dalla legge 7 agosto 1990, n. 241, e successive modificazioni, per motivi di sicurezza o di ordine pubblico il diniego non deve essere motivato, salvo quando riguarda le domande di visto presentate ai sensi degli articoli 22, 24, 26, ***27***, 28, 29, 36 e 39. La presentazione di documentazione falsa o contraffatta o di false attestazioni a sostegno della domanda di visto comporta automaticamente, oltre alle relative responsabilità penali, l’ inammissibilità della domanda. Per lo straniero in possesso di permesso di soggiorno è sufficiente, ai fini del reingresso nel territorio dello Stato, una preventiva comunicazione all’autorità di frontiera»;
———

which in turn means that the Italian Consulate/Embassy in the non-EU country must give the ‘visto di ingresso’ (entrance into Italy) without delay, if the reason for the request is … coming to Italy having a job at INFN (or whatever center). And one can go in and out (of Italy) at as one wants.

Unfortunately such details, known only to the lawyers, didn’t help me to not be an illegal immigrant for most of the time (4.5 years) that I was also an Italian government employee.

3. Andrea Giammanco - February 22, 2008

It’s not only an italian problem.
One of my colleagues in my belgian institutes has been recently a victim of the same paradox:
– he won a position paid by the Belgian government
– so he changed status with respect to his previous contract (a post-doc for foreigners), and had to apply again for a visa

So he had to come back to his country, and waited more than two months before regaining the permit to live and work in Belgium.
The paradox is that at the same time Belgium was paying him a salary AND freezing his visa because they had to check that he really had a salary in Belgium… and this took more than two months! (In the meantime he tried alternative ways, like turistic visas, and they were denied.)

“Fortress Europa”, as the nazis liked to call it, is becoming harder and harder to enter by the good guys who respect the immigration laws (while I suspect that the bad guys always find a way to enter, no matter what our politicians invent).

4. dorigo - February 22, 2008

Hello Amara,

you are right – one thing is a good law and another is a bad administrative practice. I think that hurdle is hard to overcome in practice, but I believe that it is the job of those who hire a post-doc or a researcher to ensure that their secretariat does things the right way.

Andrea, your story should have cheered me up but it didn’t – maybe I am too much a cosmopolite and I do not manage to profit from the “common evil is half as bad” (or whatever the English version is)rule.

Cheers,
T.

5. birva - June 25, 2008

i m student frm india and studing here fashion design .. i want to know how many month takes to receive permit of stay after apply in post kindly help me to know in detail

6. dorigo - June 25, 2008

Hi Birva,

sorry, I do not know that detail. I suspect it is not too easy still.

Cheers, and good luck
T.


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